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D’s Protocol

March 07, 2012 By: kajay Category: Best Practices, D, Members' Best Practices, Tips


Body:  Gordon’s Enzpire (F-8), Dawn, Vicks Vapo Rub, Benzoyl Peroxide, Neosporin, Kleen Green

Enviro:  Suspend SC/Onslaught, Nylar, Kleen Green, Hotshot Foggers, Clorox, Evercare Floor and Lint Rollers

Internal:  Gordon’s Enzyme Capsules, Lufenuron, Ivermectin, Doxycycline, Albendazole, Mebendazole

Laundry: Arm and Hammer Laundry Detergent, Borax, Ammonia

Details as of March 2012

I have tried most of the things suggested on F1C and over the last 4 years.  On this I have only included what I have continued to use and was effective for me.  If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask – I am not as detailed as you are.  Hopefully I have thought of everything that was helpful.

F-8 (Skin, Internal) – I am still getting bites on my back and scalp despite being on F-8 spray and capsules for at least a month and before that, on F-6 spray for about 6 weeks The number of critters has diminished greatly in number and in size – micro!

Lufenuron (Internal) – Prior to F-6, I did use a full round of Lufenuron (CandidaAway) but…

…it did not get rid of the red rash under my breasts which was diagnosed by a derm as Candida.  I now think that area is a hiding place for the critters and they bite which is what I think might be the cause of the redness and sometimes very sore spots.  They seem to come and go there and I can sometimes “rub them up” there.

Ivermectin and Vermicide (Internal) – In the past, I have taken Ivermectin which didn’t do anything alone.  Later I tried it in conjunction with albendazole and it seemed more effective, but had a Dr. appt during that time and my blood tests showed my liver enzymes very high.  He told me to stop for a couple of weeks and I did and the enzymes went back to normal.  He said I could go back to  the Albendazole but not with Ivermectin at the same time.  Unfortunately, when I started the Albendazole again, I broke out in Hives, so that was the end of that.

Antibiotics and Vermicides (Internal) – Earlier, I had alternated the Albendazole with Mebendazole and Doxycycline. Not too long into that procedure, I broke out in Hives from the Doxycycline.  I’ve not been an allergic type in my long lifetime (76) but for some reason, this has cropped up.

Dawn, Vicks VapoRub (Skin) – From the beginning I have showered and shampooed with Dawn.  At night, I have used the Vics Vaporub on my back and the places where I got most bites early on in my fight with these critters.

Benzoyl Peroxide, Neosporin (Skin) – Currently, I use Benzoyl Peroxide ointment on my lesions – draws them out- because I don’t think they go away until the little black speck inside has gotten out which is usually from tearing my skin with my fingernail.  (Primitive, huh?)  I follow that up with the Benzoyl ointment or if I think all the critters are out, I use Neosporin which dries up the lesion quickly and both prevent infection.  Sometimes, I have felt what I think is critters in my throat causing incessant coughing.  I take a swallow of Listerine and that seems to kill them.

Arm and Hammer Laundry Detergent, Borax, Ammonia (Laundry) – I do the Laundry with Arm and Hammer (before that, Tide) and put 1/4 cup of Borax and 1/2 cup of ammonia in the hottest water.  I run the sink hot water for a couple of minutes before I start the water in the washer so I know it is very hot.

Baking Soda (Shoes) – I read somewhere to put baking soda in my shoes and this is most effective at keeping the critters out.

Suspend SC/Onslaught, Nylar (vs Cedarcide) (Enviro) – For the environment, I read early on on Birdmites that someone said she wished she had started with Suspend SC.  After spending a fortune on Cedarcide and exterminators I decided to try this along with Nylar  (or similar).  I spray the floorboards, the bottoms of furniture, underside of bed and floor under bed.  I was doing it about once a month for a long time, but then have lightened up and done it less  since I don’t see much on the floors these days.  I understand the critters get used to the pesticides, so I alternate the Suspend with Onslaught and an IGR, all from Do It Myself Website.

Kleen Green (Skin, Enviro) – The other spray I have used constantly is Kleen Green, an enzyme formulation, because it kills the critters and is harmless to humans.  Before  I got the F series, I used to use it to spray my skin as well, but I don’t think it is a cure.  I spray the dog bed, the bed, the furniture etc. with it too.

Hotshot Foggers – We also  set off the Hotshot foggers for fleas and bedbugs throughout the condo.  Orange spray would probably be better but I’ve gotten lazy.

Clorox, Evercare Floor and Lint Rollers (Enviro) – Washing the floor, we use some Chlorox in the water.  I sweep constantly, but my faorite thing is the large Evercare Floor Roller which I use all the time.  Refills are available at Target.  I use the small Evercare Sticky Rollers on my bed, table, counter etc. I’ve recently learned something which should have been obvious.  Since the critters are now so small and a lot of them are white and don’t show up on the sheet, after the roller, I run my hand over the sheet and can feel the “sand” when stuff is there.

Some Notes and Questions

I know there is nothing earthshaking here, but this is a summary of the stuff I think has helped me.

I was interested in the person who used the Ozone Generator in her car because we recently had a godawful smell in our garage and couldn’t find the source.  I was looking for a solution and read about Ozone Generators and it said they kill parasites so I wondered if anyone had used one in their house.  You can’t be present with it, but it sounds like a great idea for the environment because I think the Ozone would kill the Morgs.  I think you can rent one instead of buying.  It ended up my son-in-law found some plant material that had spilled in the cabinet and was causing the odor so we never got to getting an ozone generator.

Where I Am Today

Since the Albendazole/Ivermectin combo, I haven’t taken any antibiotics, but I am tempted to take the Ivermectin which agreed with me along with using the F-8.  Thought maybe the combo would be more effective than either was alone.  I read your website today before I started typing and think maybe I will try the paste which one poster reported using successfully.

You have done a great job with your website and I’m sure it will be very helpful to fellow sufferers. Feel free to post any or all of the above, whatever you think might be useful.


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1 Comments to “D’s Protocol”

  1. I think I might be dealing with rodent mites. Not sure have not found a good sample of them they could be bird mites. I live over a three car garage that belongs to my landlady. She had rodents living in cabinets in the garage that I did not know about. There are also bats living in the walls here but legally because they are pregnant they can’t be moved until Sept.

    I first thought I had fleas. It is not fleas and I highly suspect it is mites. I do have a ozone air purifier which seems to help. I blast it when I am not home in one room at a time but so far it has maybe helped reduce the problem but they are still biting a bit. Then again I am not sure the landlady has gotten rid of every last rodent and she was in denial she had a rodent issue to begin with and is beyond difficult to work with.

    I am new to all of this. I do have Lyme disease & bartonella, babesia and RMSF. Do bird or rodents mites create Morgellons?


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